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Shifting the papers on her desk to the side, Isabelle created enough space to sit down. So she did. Pushing herself up, her legs swinging slightly as she moved further back and got comfortable. She was eager to hear what the kids thought on this subject. Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixStar  Hmmm...Hannah thought about this for a moment. With a raised hand she responded with "Professor I think love is something that can't be messed with because that is a way that a person feels. You can't really make they stop or start loving you with a wave of a wand." She wasn't sure why anybody would want to do that anyways. Ugh!
Would Hannah do all of these things if she could? Ummm heck yeah. She wasn't going to lie and she dang sure wasn't ashamed to admit it. She could rule the world with that kinda power. "Professor if I could I would. Could you imagine what kind of power you would have? I think it would be awesome." she said with a raised hand. I mean sure that would mean that the others would be capable of the same kind of power and that could be bad and Hannah wouldn't want other people making her love them, but that wouldn't happen because she would just make sure that she was the most powerful ever. Duh! "Power, yes." Isabelle had her own opinions on all this, but she was going to play Devil's Advocate to them, if she could. Counteract their positive with a negative, and their negative with a positive. "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely," she said simply, raising an eyebrow at the girl. Quote:
Originally Posted by kayquilz Elliot narrowed her eyebrows, something she did whenever she was thinking particularly hard. Hmm. Money equals power and prestige...and of course, Elliot wanted power. It was in her very blood. Her father wouldn't want those exceptions to transfiguration...but would she? She imagined herself being able to conjure all the money she wanted...who cares about love? Money is power.
She turned to glare at Hannah, but eventually a smirk broke out on her face. Looks like Hannah was having the same thoughts. But then that would mean everyone would be rich and powerful. And equal. People weren't made to be equal...
"While I do desire power, and power for my family, I do not think these exceptions should ever be bypassed. They should always exist. Money, which usually leads to power, should be earned. If everyone could become rich, then there would be no power, for everyone would be equal," she directed this at Hannah, her smirk growing haughtier by the minute. Hmm. What would her friend have to say to this, eh? Elliot chuckled to herself. "Should we not all strive to be equal, though? Treat each other equally." The way you'd wish to be treated and such. Quote:
Originally Posted by HOPEendures If she could would she? Jezzabelle stared at nothing in particular and became a little distant as her mind raced. If they could do those things would she let them be done? It was her parents right to divorce and her grandfathers right to pass away but she was selfish enough to think that if it could be done she would do it.
"I don't believe in taking away someone's free will," she started out slowly, "it wouldn't be fair to make someone love you when they have every right to love whomever they'd like. It's also a persons right to pass on and move off from this world and I could never do that to someone I loved but..." Yes, there was a but. A big but, "I would do it if it was possible though. I'd cause my parents to love each other again and I would bring my grandfather back even though I'd be taking away their free will to do as they please. I'd do it without a second thought and regret my decisions later."
Did that mean she was a bad person for wanting to have the chance to be happy? Was she wrong for wanting these things? To have her family restored back to how it used to be? She didn't really think so. It's not like she could anyway. Those were the rules and no one is above them. Would anyone agree with her though? If they had lost someone they loved dearly, would they want to bring them back? "Regrets are something you have to live with though. Doing those things might make you happy for a while, but would your conscience allow you to stay that way?" Isabelle gave the Gryffindor a warm smile, just to show she wasn't attacking her opinion merely expanding on it. Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Eye Touz
Aspen was a little wary when the Professor approached her. Suspicious even. She shrugged in response, not wanting all that one-on-one attention in front of the whole class. After class, sure, or office hours, but not like this. Aspen waited until other people started answering before slipping in her reply.
...mostly she waited for West to answer. He ALWAYS had an answer and much to Aspen's delight, and pride, he almost always checked her way before or after. She gave him an encouraging little nod, as always.
"I still think they're exceptions because of our inabilities. But, even if we did learn how to create those things listed in Gamp's Law, they'd still be exceptions. The government would certainly make their own laws to keep everything in check, particularly if you consider the Statute of Secrecy. We can't very well have all the riches, love, and food in the world and not go unnoticed." So that answered the Professor's first question, and Aspen paused, mouth set and head tilted while she puzzled out the morals of it. Hmm.
"In a way, do you think it's sort of like the Unforgivables? That some would see being able to conjure up money as bad, but if you knew all the circumstances, maybe it wouldn't be that bad after all? What if I just conjured up enough money to buy robes? Or a house? What if... love was conjured up for really, really sad people that couldn't find it on their own? Is it really so bad to conjure up happiness? The same could be said for the unforgiveables, when they're being used as protection, or for some other bettering of the world."
Sort of. Or at least that was Aspen's initial thoughts.
Nodding, Issy took in what Aspen said, and formed a reply in her head. "Of course, the problem is not everyone would conjure up just enough for things. There would always be people that went too far and wanted more and more. And would conjuring love for other people not be taking their free will away, as someone else mentioned, and removing their ability to do it for themselves?" Quote:
Originally Posted by TakemetotheBurrow Ella listened as her classmates continued to answer, pretty impressed with what they were saying. When the older Ravenclaw girl answered, it really made Ella think. What if people could conjure up love for sad people out there? Would that mean that her dad could find love again, after everything that happened when her mom left? She would give anything to see him smile again the way he did when mom was around. But then where did the sadness go? Surely all those feelings, the bad ones, would still be there somewhere inside. Did that mean that her dad would one day just lose it, cause his emotions were temporarily buried due to the bliss of another relationship?
"While I think it would be brilliant if you could find love for all the lonely people out there...I think there's probably a reason they're lonely. Like they're too sad because they lost someone they loved, or are afraid to be in love. Even if you could remedy those feelings by finding them someone new...well w-wouldn't that only be a temporary fix? Cause then-well then when the love wore off...wouldn't that leave them even sadder than they originally were?" She shrugged, not really knowing the answer to the question she had asked. She just felt like people had to deal with their feelings to actually help fix them. "And that's what I meant. Some people may not wish for love to be thrust upon them by others. Even if it worked and they were no longer lonely, what happens when love fades? Sometimes even true love isn't foolproof, or everlasting." Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelsheen Whoah... great question.
Vickers eyed the list on the board again-- what IF he can conjure a genuine version of all of those listed? His thoughts immediately goes to his mother, robbed off him when he was barely old enough to form a tangible memory. What he would do to be able to talk to her from across the grave! Even just one kind word would matter so much to him, there was a longing he felt that children with at least one living parent wouldnt understand.
If he was being completely selfish, he would say yes. He wanted to see his mother, not something seen through a magical artifact or something happening in his head-- like really see and talk to her. He felt it was his magical right Merlin's sake!
But he closed his eyes and rested his head on his hands, calmed down and thought things over carefully. After a while he raised a tentative hand " Professor, it would seem like such a remarkable thing-- noble even-- to conjure food and money out of thin air to give the downtrodden, make ignorance history by simply making people know everything, or bringing those passed-away back to the living for a moment for a chance to communicate with loved ones left behind... or like what Ms Aspen said, give love to those who never felt it... but one would have to wonder if giving people exactly what they want would make the world a better place?"
"Those exceptions are set in place for a reason--even if we dont fully understand or agree with them. Each of those five exceptions have a direct correlation with Nature, with our world. And our world is dependent on keeping things balanced. As it is, we are already having a hard time keeping things balanced with those exceptions still in place-- the greedy hoard the resources and everybody else suffers from it. Waving a wand or snapping a finger isnt going to correct this imbalance. We have to find it in ourselves to distribute these resources fairly to those who need it-- we need to learn to share, we have to find it in ourselves to heal and move on with life, reach out and touch people's lives. Because truthfully we dont have to break those exceptions to right the wrongs in this world, the answers are already here, in each of us." And Vickers had more or less hit the nail on the head, as far as the way Isabelle felt. Of course that didn't make the rest of them wrong, far from it. Just different in their opinions. "I agree with you, Mister Vanderbilt." "I'm so glad that you've all put so much thought into the question. The truth is, there are pros and cons, an argument for and against, for all these exceptions. Yes, it would be nice to be able to conjure food to feed the starving - but doing so would also mean people that sold food would lose their jobs because they'd no longer be needed. Having money on tap, while a nice thought, would mean the economy would suffer. And love and life are so complex that happiness at being with someone, or having them back, wouldn't necessarily last."
Flicking her wand at the board, Isabelle erased the first lot of writing, and re-wrote the second part. Leaving enough space for the kids to write their names etc. Quote:
Originally Posted by Board Name: __________ Favourite Spell: __________ Reason: __________ "Thank you all for your input in that discussion, I hope you all got something from it. Information on the reasons why they're exceptions at the very least. But now I'd like to move on to another discussion, a more light hearted one I hope."
Isabelle didn't move from her seated position on her desk, instead she just pointed at the board using her wand as a guide. "What I'd like you all to do is come up here and fill in the information I've asked for - with just a one word, or one sentence reason please. Then we can expand on it all in a jiffy." OOC: Last post for the night. Please have your character come up and fill it in. PLEASE QUOTE THE BOARD DETAILS FROM THE LAST PERSON TO POST (above you). THAT WAY ALL THE NAMES WILL BE ON THE LIST IN EACH QUOTE - RATHER THAN JUST INDIVIDUAL NAMES IN EACH POST. Thank you. We'll move on to the discussion tomorrow. |