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AlwaysSnapesGirl · 01-26-2011, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fanficfanatict

"Yes, but sir can you truly count Peter Pettigrew? He was a pawn in a Dark man's quest for power. In the end he was a man with remorse. When he killed himself, or technically his arm did, Harry Potter said he did so with regret. He's betrayl was not one of power, but of cowardice. How can a cowardly motivation count when he, at the end, was full of regret with his betrayl. A real dark wizard has no remorse."

"I'd be pretty regretful too if my magic hand had a mind of its own and killed me," Vashti commented with a small smile. "But really, I think what it comes down to is exactly what betrayal Peter Pettigrew was regretful of. Was he really regretful of his betrayal of the Potters? Or was that regret Harry Potter talks about actually from the betrayal of his hand that probably made no indication previously that it would kill him if he ever did anything it - or, rather, Voldemort - didn't like? That, I guess, we can never honestly know, but in my opinion, whether he regretted the magic hand or his betrayal of the Potters, he was still a Dark Wizard when he died. If he really regretted betraying his friends, he would have acted on that remorse and changed his ways - but he never did."

Merlin, that was a bit longer than she had intended.

SPOILER!!: The Snape discussion

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Originally Posted by Steelsheen

A deep scowl crossed his features as he shifted in his seat to see who that was. Josh? Is he serious? Well he's laughing but why cant he shake off the feeling like the Gryffindor meant it? "Snape wasnt a coward." Salander replied in even tones "He made a terrible mistake-- and he spent the rest of his life correcting that mistake. He had to play both sides for over a decade just to bring Voldemort down. Voldermort-- the deadliest and most powerful wizard of the time. Can you imagine how insanely dangerous that was? Instead of cowering away for his life and betraying his friends-- like Pettigrew-- Snape took the task of helping defeat Voldemort from within. If that isnt courage I dont know what you call it."

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Originally Posted by Lara_the_Firelady

Hahahaha.

This class was Josh's favourite so far. He did not know why but it did not matter. There was no need for finding a reason because the Gryffindor was enjoying it and that was what he thought important. But gradually he was getting bored of the long speeches of other students so he was about to focus his attention on something else to busy himself like finding where Evelyn was when he heard someone adressing to him.

Looking at that way the boy grinned again the moment he spotted Salander speaking to him. ''Oh really?'' then he asked cheerfully ''I don't know what Severus Snape messed with but if he had been famous with his courage like you say it would be a common knowledge that he was a Gryffindor''

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Originally Posted by Zoerawrr

That voice was like nails on a chalkboard to Jake. His eye twitched once as he glanced out of the window before turning to Josh. "Just because someone is famed for courage it doesn't mean they were a Gryffindor. Same with any house. Plus, courage was only a part of how he became famous. Fact is, he WAS extremely brave, but he WAS a Slytherin as well."

Facts, Josh. Straighten them out.

Or open your mind.

Bam.

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Originally Posted by Lara_the_Firelady

When he saw who spoke to him next, Josh, at first, blinked at the Hufflepuff boy a couple of times without saying a word for he wanted to make sure that it was really Jake who was speaking to him. To Josh it was surprising but also amusing to see that Jake dared to speak to him like that.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Maybe he was looking for trouble the Gryffindor boy was not sure but despite that thought he smirked at him and ''Believe me i know the popular traits of houses are not always the same for everyone but when it comes to Severus Snape i don't think you can claim that you know what kind of a person he was because you do not know him in person. Do you?''

*grin*

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Originally Posted by Orion Black

"Ok. In the case of Snape, the fact remains that he was an actual Death Eater, did bad things, but then he turned to Dumbledore after the Potters were killed and acted as a double-agent. He was in the dark, then he turned to the light. He was ultimately killed by Voldemorts pet for being found out. He was in the Order of the Pheonix, he protected Harry Potter. In addition to being the Slytherin Head of House, and basically despised muggleborns, he helped Harry, Ron, and Hermione, a muggleborn, from the other Death Eaters. I guess that's something unforgivable your eyes, but remember, you never knew him either. so how do you judge a person you've never met?"

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Originally Posted by Zoerawrr

"Dude. Listen to what you're saying, then come back to me."

Like what that other kid was saying.

KTHXBAII.

Jake looked at Neptune again and smiled more to himself than anything.

To be honest... Jake didn't care one jot about Severus Snape right now.

"And why can't we know what kind of person he was?" Vashti asked, looking over at the Gryffindor with a raised brow. "Just because we've never met him - you haven't either, I'd like to point out - doesn't mean we can't look back on history and figure out what kind of person he was by the events he was involved in and how he acted and reacted before, during, and after those events. That sort of thing can tell you what kind of person he or she is, even if you have never met them."

01-26-2011, 12:20 AM	#191 (permalink)
AlwaysSnapesGirl Privet Drive Mod Book Club Mod St. Mungo's Mod Re'em Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Narnia Posts: 19,802 Hogwarts RPG Name: Vashti Amstern Graduated Hogwarts RPG Name: Zephyr Amstern Ravenclaw Fourth Year Hogwarts RPG Name: Nathaniel Hensley Slytherin Fifth Year Hogwarts RPG Name: Apollo Finch-Selwyn Hufflepuff Sixth Year Hogwarts RPG Name: Avalon Dane Gryffindor Fourth Year x7 x1	Baguette \| there is no D in my name \| TRAITORclaw \| Queenie of Narnia Quote: Originally Posted by fanficfanatict "Yes, but sir can you truly count Peter Pettigrew? He was a pawn in a Dark man's quest for power. In the end he was a man with remorse. When he killed himself, or technically his arm did, Harry Potter said he did so with regret. He's betrayl was not one of power, but of cowardice. How can a cowardly motivation count when he, at the end, was full of regret with his betrayl. A real dark wizard has no remorse." "I'd be pretty regretful too if my magic hand had a mind of its own and killed me," Vashti commented with a small smile. "But really, I think what it comes down to is exactly what betrayal Peter Pettigrew was regretful of. Was he really regretful of his betrayal of the Potters? Or was that regret Harry Potter talks about actually from the betrayal of his hand that probably made no indication previously that it would kill him if he ever did anything it - or, rather, Voldemort - didn't like? That, I guess, we can never honestly know, but in my opinion, whether he regretted the magic hand or his betrayal of the Potters, he was still a Dark Wizard when he died. If he really regretted betraying his friends, he would have acted on that remorse and changed his ways - but he never did." Merlin, that was a bit longer than she had intended. SPOILER!!: The Snape discussion Quote: Originally Posted by Steelsheen A deep scowl crossed his features as he shifted in his seat to see who that was. Josh? Is he serious? Well he's laughing but why cant he shake off the feeling like the Gryffindor meant it? "Snape wasnt a coward." Salander replied in even tones "He made a terrible mistake-- and he spent the rest of his life correcting that mistake. He had to play both sides for over a decade just to bring Voldemort down. Voldermort-- the deadliest and most powerful wizard of the time. Can you imagine how insanely dangerous that was? Instead of cowering away for his life and betraying his friends-- like Pettigrew-- Snape took the task of helping defeat Voldemort from within. If that isnt courage I dont know what you call it." Quote: Originally Posted by Lara_the_Firelady Hahahaha. This class was Josh's favourite so far. He did not know why but it did not matter. There was no need for finding a reason because the Gryffindor was enjoying it and that was what he thought important. But gradually he was getting bored of the long speeches of other students so he was about to focus his attention on something else to busy himself like finding where Evelyn was when he heard someone adressing to him. Looking at that way the boy grinned again the moment he spotted Salander speaking to him. ''Oh really?'' then he asked cheerfully ''I don't know what Severus Snape messed with but if he had been famous with his courage like you say it would be a common knowledge that he was a Gryffindor'' Quote: Originally Posted by Zoerawrr That voice was like nails on a chalkboard to Jake. His eye twitched once as he glanced out of the window before turning to Josh. "Just because someone is famed for courage it doesn't mean they were a Gryffindor. Same with any house. Plus, courage was only a part of how he became famous. Fact is, he WAS extremely brave, but he WAS a Slytherin as well." Facts, Josh. Straighten them out. Or open your mind. Bam. Quote: Originally Posted by Lara_the_Firelady When he saw who spoke to him next, Josh, at first, blinked at the Hufflepuff boy a couple of times without saying a word for he wanted to make sure that it was really Jake who was speaking to him. To Josh it was surprising but also amusing to see that Jake dared to speak to him like that. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Maybe he was looking for trouble the Gryffindor boy was not sure but despite that thought he smirked at him and ''Believe me i know the popular traits of houses are not always the same for everyone but when it comes to Severus Snape i don't think you can claim that you know what kind of a person he was because you do not know him in person. Do you?'' grin Quote: Originally Posted by Orion Black "Ok. In the case of Snape, the fact remains that he was an actual Death Eater, did bad things, but then he turned to Dumbledore after the Potters were killed and acted as a double-agent. He was in the dark, then he turned to the light. He was ultimately killed by Voldemorts pet for being found out. He was in the Order of the Pheonix, he protected Harry Potter. In addition to being the Slytherin Head of House, and basically despised muggleborns, he helped Harry, Ron, and Hermione, a muggleborn, from the other Death Eaters. I guess that's something unforgivable your eyes, but remember, you never knew him either. so how do you judge a person you've never met?" Quote: Originally Posted by Zoerawrr "Dude. Listen to what you're saying, then come back to me." Like what that other kid was saying. KTHXBAII. Jake looked at Neptune again and smiled more to himself than anything. To be honest... Jake didn't care one jot about Severus Snape right now. "And why can't we know what kind of person he was?" Vashti asked, looking over at the Gryffindor with a raised brow. "Just because we've never met him - you haven't either, I'd like to point out - doesn't mean we can't look back on history and figure out what kind of person he was by the events he was involved in and how he acted and reacted before, during, and after those events. That sort of thing can tell you what kind of person he or she is, even if you have never met them." __________________ if we fall, we will fall together; and when we rise, we will rise together__________________♥♥♥♥ together we are dangerous; together with our differences; together we are bolder, braver, stronger Last edited by AlwaysSnapesGirl; 01-26-2011 at 12:21 AM. Reason: getting rid of a random apostrophe