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SilverTiger · 01-15-2011, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry174

Simon couldn't believe that he had got another question wrong. "Professor I'm really sorry, I am trying my hardest." Simon sighed. "I ain't doing it on purpose, honestly I ain't." Simon hoped that the Professor would believe him, he had this feeling that she was thinking he was doing it on purpose.

Simon want to answer but at the same time he didn't he was sure he would get it wrong. "Professor I'm rubbish at Divinations." Simon tried to think of what the card ment. "Is it that it is the best, it's the most important one."

Renée sent Simon a sympathetic look as he seemed to get more worried as the lesson went on. She hadn't wanted him to misinterpret anything, of course, so now she felt the need to try and reassure him. "You needn't apologize for trying, and I know you aren't doing it intentionally," she replied, before stepping back a bit as he spoke again. Not far, as she had the desk behind her, and it was more metaphorically, but she wasn't about to try to make him feel better when he seemed already decided. "You're not. It just might take a bit longer, maybe some more reading," she added, before giving him a little nod. "That's not completely off. It can certainly be the most important, depending on how you look at things." Perhaps she'd need to talk to him a bit after the lesson, and, as she glanced around the room, she wondered if Miss Greingoth should be included as well.

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Originally Posted by top94a

Raven is again didn't understand the lesson, he listen, most of the session, he see the diagram that the professor shows, but really don't understand the meaning of significator, he loves to gamble, he tries to participate in this lesson, he didn't want to loose, that easy. He raise his hand before saying.
"err, from the word itself, it's mean an indicator of something significant in a future or past condition", Raven gave a weakly smile

Renée looked over at one of the Gryffindors who had also seemed to possibly be struggling a little, as he raised his hand, and she nodded a little as he spoke. "Not exactly something from the past or future, Mr. Perevell, but yes, it can be significant," she responded gently with a smile. Once it got explained, the significance would likely be understood. But even with that, she thought, the significator wasn't integral. It certainly came in useful, but the very fact not every spread included it told the story that it wasn't necessary. Just another of the little details that came in useful during readings, same as every other bit of information the cards could give.

Text Cut: responses ^_^

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Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie

Kurumi flew to her notes and began copying down what Professor Bishop was saying along with the diagram on the board. The significator? Kurumi had thought that she had read that as having another meaning. "Professor," Kurumi asked with her hand raised. "I thought that the card in position number 1 represented the present. It shows the general tone of whatever the one seeking interpretation is asking about."

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Originally Posted by Roselyn

For the first time ever, Evelyn was lost.

So so lost.

And it had nothing to do with the fact that she was not paying attention!

...

Blinking, the Slytherin exhaled a long breath, trying to wrap her head around what they were talking about now. Significator...card...one...thing...question. Alright. What is the significance of the significator? Oh now that almost just lost her right there again. "It's significant because..." Losing her train of thought. Ugh. "...it...it's like the prologue to the whole story. I think."

Hmm, right?

Eh?

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Originally Posted by Starbreeze

Eino raised his hand. "Professor, the significator indicates who are in the present right? That would, naturally, affect the outcome of our future." It made sense. The person you are will determine the choices you make, and those choices would lead to a certain future. "However, Divination is the study of the future, so a present substance might not always be taken into consideration. By removing the significator one is able to read the future as, well, fate. Something that just happens, that it is destined to be. By including the significator the future would be subjective, and possibly change."

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Originally Posted by PattyH.

To be honest, Patroclus had nothing.......

So to give himself time and a chance to think of something, the boy quickly but correctly copied down the Celtic Cross Diagram, labelling the cards as he went.

But that only took so long, so he thought it best just to give it ago, "Professor does The Significator, represent the person that the spread is about?" It was a stretch, but he thought he had read something, "The reader, has the person the spread is about, the querent select a card they find to relfect them."

Yes? No?

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Originally Posted by Luinevaug

Luin quickly jotted down some notes, copying down everything that was put on the board, and then thought of the teacher's next question. She wasn't completely sure about the answer this time, and raised her hand slowly, "The Significator helps direct the energies toward the reading’s goal by signifying the purpose of the reading, it represents the seeker, or his/her situation."

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Originally Posted by Lindzers

Concentrate! Melanie had to concentrate! Snapping out of some sort of a daze as the professor asked a question about one of the cards, she rubbed her forehead. Okay... significator... card number one... significance?

Umm. Honestly, the girl had no idea. She raised her hand anyway, though. Yay, for random stabs in the dark? "The significator card holds significance, because it indicates the significance of the other cards." Significance + indicator = significator! Yeah?

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Originally Posted by scarsandtetris

Realising this was a question about which she had some idea, Charley quickly thrust her hand above her head.
"Professor, I thought that the Significator was a card removed from the deck before it's shuffled, chosen to represent the, the person consulting the cards. The Tarot reading is based on it...." she said insecurely, worrying that her thought was extensively precarious.

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Originally Posted by The Grey Lady

"The Significator tells the character of the person receiving the tarot reading." That was truly about all she knew of the card, whether this small fact was something that made the card significant, she didn't know.

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Originally Posted by ArianaBlack

Nika thought that she wouldn't like divination at all, but she has grown fond of the subject already. Nika quickly raised her hand and said "Well the significator is a card that sort of represents the person they are reading for." At this point Nika was very happy that she decided to read some books about her classes before she went to them.

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Originally Posted by Yourenodaisy

As Emmaleigh listened to the professor, she scribbled notes down on her parchment. It seemed that she hadn't been too off the mark with her answer. But hearing the next question, she frowned, and tried to think of the answer. Raising her hand, she asked, "Isn't it Like its the character of the person receving the reading, or some underlying issue related to the question being asked?"

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Originally Posted by vijaya

Lucy got more and into the class as it turned into something more interesting. She was really enjoying the class, as Professor explained more about the cards she had another question. Lucy knew the answer to this one and raised her hand saying "Professor, some believe that the significator helps to direct the energies toward the reading's goal by signifying the purpose of the reading. The significator card simply represents the seeker, or his situation." She said and out her hand down waiting for what professor had to say.

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Originally Posted by Canoir Greengrass

Freya took out her notes and copying down what Professor Bishop wrote on the board. The Significator? She raised her hand before saying "The Significator card is a card that is drawn to represent the querent or the person we are reading for in the tarot reading like what you are and what is important for you to know about yourself right now."

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Originally Posted by Ashy Malfoy

"Professor..." Tyrone began wearily "Wouldn't it be something like the representastion of the person wanting to find their future? I've heard that the old ways allowed the card to be chosen before the shuffle. Right?" He was unsure. None of his books had said much about the significance of the positioning of the cards. Well, not from the books he had gotten.

It seemed Renée was getting many different variations on the answer she was looking for, but at least the students seemed to be getting the basic idea down. "Yes, Miss Hollingberry, the significator can represent an idea of the present, what is being looked for," she replied, before glancing at Evelyn. "And it could very easily be considered the prologue to the story. But it could also be explained as the entire story.In fact, as so many of you have said," in one way or another, " the significator represents the person asking the question. It could also represent the question itself, although several of the other cards address that as well, in the Celtic cross spread at least. And I'm specifying that it represents the one asking the question, because in many cases when you are doing a reading, you might be doing it for someone other than yourself. And in that case, the significator, when used, would represent the person you're helping," she continued, before glancing at the few who had addressed how the significator was chosen. That was another story altogether, really, but she ran her fingers along the deck she'd placed on her desk again before addressing the class again. "Significators can be chosen in a few ways. You could simply choose a card you feel represents yourself, given its meanings and such, which commonly involves the Magician or High Priestess, or any of the court cards. You could let the deck choose, by shuffling and seeing what card ends up on the top of the deck. That often gives more insight as to what question is being asked. Or, in the case of doing a reading for someone else, you could let them go through the cards and pick one, which can also elaborate on the other cards representing personal ideas of self. Of course, none of these are relevant, exactly, if you're doing a reading and choose not to use a significator, but it's always interesting to find out." She smiled. In a way, that was what Treyen had been attempting, in his own angry way, to do to herself. It was just too bad that wasn't how it worked.

But then she looked out at the class again with a grin. "How many of you think you would be able to do a reading now? Of course, given a way to interpret the cards you end up with." She wasn't about to expect them all to go in blindly, or even do perfect readings the first time around. But she imagined they could have some fun with it. "There should be enough sets of cards on the shelves for everyone, although I'd recommend pairing up. That way you could maybe learn some things about your classmates," she added. Besides, while she could cast a duplicating charm on the cards to create more sets, that could lessen the inherent magic in the decks. "Feel free to use any spread you'd like, as well, although I'd recommend either the one we discussed in class, or a simple one like the three-card spread. And keep in mind, I'll still be here to answer questions, so don't be afraid." Although she was thinking about doing a reading of her own, still curious about those she knew were in the room without revealing themselves. The students came first.

ooc: As explained, you guys feel free to RP doing readings for yourselves or for a partner. Use the link for card meanings, or your own if you'd rather. Obviously, decide what cards appear on your own (unless you literally have a deck in front of you, which would be kind of awesome but unexpected.) and have fun with this. I'll be around occasionally to check on things, answer questions when I can, and Professor Bishop is always technically there watching you.

01-15-2011, 08:33 AM	#314 (permalink)
SilverTiger Crumple-Horned Snorkack Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SoCal sighs(GMT-8) Posts: 111,234 Hogwarts RPG Name: Malachi Wild Slytherin Seventh Year Hogwarts RPG Name: Teagan Kensington Slytherin Third Year Hogwarts RPG Name: Arienne Morgenstern Hufflepuff Sixth Year Hogwarts RPG Name: Simone Wild Slytherin Fourth Year Hogwarts RPG Name: Noa LeCourt Gryffindor Second Year x5 x3	I'm kind of giggling at Treyen. And petting Jake, who just has to realize one thing. Shoe!Girl │ Rebel Ravie │ Confundus Queen │ RP Addict Quote: Originally Posted by Harry174 Simon couldn't believe that he had got another question wrong. "Professor I'm really sorry, I am trying my hardest." Simon sighed. "I ain't doing it on purpose, honestly I ain't." Simon hoped that the Professor would believe him, he had this feeling that she was thinking he was doing it on purpose. Simon want to answer but at the same time he didn't he was sure he would get it wrong. "Professor I'm rubbish at Divinations." Simon tried to think of what the card ment. "Is it that it is the best, it's the most important one." Renée sent Simon a sympathetic look as he seemed to get more worried as the lesson went on. She hadn't wanted him to misinterpret anything, of course, so now she felt the need to try and reassure him. "You needn't apologize for trying, and I know you aren't doing it intentionally," she replied, before stepping back a bit as he spoke again. Not far, as she had the desk behind her, and it was more metaphorically, but she wasn't about to try to make him feel better when he seemed already decided. "You're not. It just might take a bit longer, maybe some more reading," she added, before giving him a little nod. "That's not completely off. It can certainly be the most important, depending on how you look at things." Perhaps she'd need to talk to him a bit after the lesson, and, as she glanced around the room, she wondered if Miss Greingoth should be included as well. Quote: Originally Posted by top94a Raven is again didn't understand the lesson, he listen, most of the session, he see the diagram that the professor shows, but really don't understand the meaning of significator, he loves to gamble, he tries to participate in this lesson, he didn't want to loose, that easy. He raise his hand before saying. "err, from the word itself, it's mean an indicator of something significant in a future or past condition", Raven gave a weakly smile Renée looked over at one of the Gryffindors who had also seemed to possibly be struggling a little, as he raised his hand, and she nodded a little as he spoke. "Not exactly something from the past or future, Mr. Perevell, but yes, it can be significant," she responded gently with a smile. Once it got explained, the significance would likely be understood. But even with that, she thought, the significator wasn't integral. It certainly came in useful, but the very fact not every spread included it told the story that it wasn't necessary. Just another of the little details that came in useful during readings, same as every other bit of information the cards could give. Text Cut: responses ^_^ Quote: Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie Kurumi flew to her notes and began copying down what Professor Bishop was saying along with the diagram on the board. The significator? Kurumi had thought that she had read that as having another meaning. "Professor," Kurumi asked with her hand raised. "I thought that the card in position number 1 represented the present. It shows the general tone of whatever the one seeking interpretation is asking about." Quote: Originally Posted by Roselyn For the first time ever, Evelyn was lost. So so lost. And it had nothing to do with the fact that she was not paying attention! ... Blinking, the Slytherin exhaled a long breath, trying to wrap her head around what they were talking about now. Significator...card...one...thing...question. Alright. What is the significance of the significator? Oh now that almost just lost her right there again. "It's significant because..." Losing her train of thought. Ugh. "...it...it's like the prologue to the whole story. I think." Hmm, right? Eh? Quote: Originally Posted by Starbreeze Eino raised his hand. "Professor, the significator indicates who are in the present right? That would, naturally, affect the outcome of our future." It made sense. The person you are will determine the choices you make, and those choices would lead to a certain future. "However, Divination is the study of the future, so a present substance might not always be taken into consideration. By removing the significator one is able to read the future as, well, fate. Something that just happens, that it is destined to be. By including the significator the future would be subjective, and possibly change." Quote: Originally Posted by PattyH. To be honest, Patroclus had nothing....... So to give himself time and a chance to think of something, the boy quickly but correctly copied down the Celtic Cross Diagram, labelling the cards as he went. But that only took so long, so he thought it best just to give it ago, "Professor does The Significator, represent the person that the spread is about?" It was a stretch, but he thought he had read something, "The reader, has the person the spread is about, the querent select a card they find to relfect them." Yes? No? Quote: Originally Posted by Luinevaug Luin quickly jotted down some notes, copying down everything that was put on the board, and then thought of the teacher's next question. She wasn't completely sure about the answer this time, and raised her hand slowly, "The Significator helps direct the energies toward the reading’s goal by signifying the purpose of the reading, it represents the seeker, or his/her situation." Quote: Originally Posted by Lindzers Concentrate! Melanie had to concentrate! Snapping out of some sort of a daze as the professor asked a question about one of the cards, she rubbed her forehead. Okay... significator... card number one... significance? Umm. Honestly, the girl had no idea. She raised her hand anyway, though. Yay, for random stabs in the dark? "The significator card holds significance, because it indicates the significance of the other cards." Significance + indicator = significator! Yeah? Quote: Originally Posted by scarsandtetris Realising this was a question about which she had some idea, Charley quickly thrust her hand above her head. "Professor, I thought that the Significator was a card removed from the deck before it's shuffled, chosen to represent the, the person consulting the cards. The Tarot reading is based on it...." she said insecurely, worrying that her thought was extensively precarious. Quote: Originally Posted by The Grey Lady "The Significator tells the character of the person receiving the tarot reading." That was truly about all she knew of the card, whether this small fact was something that made the card significant, she didn't know. Quote: Originally Posted by ArianaBlack Nika thought that she wouldn't like divination at all, but she has grown fond of the subject already. Nika quickly raised her hand and said "Well the significator is a card that sort of represents the person they are reading for." At this point Nika was very happy that she decided to read some books about her classes before she went to them. Quote: Originally Posted by Yourenodaisy As Emmaleigh listened to the professor, she scribbled notes down on her parchment. It seemed that she hadn't been too off the mark with her answer. But hearing the next question, she frowned, and tried to think of the answer. Raising her hand, she asked, "Isn't it Like its the character of the person receving the reading, or some underlying issue related to the question being asked?" Quote: Originally Posted by vijaya Lucy got more and into the class as it turned into something more interesting. She was really enjoying the class, as Professor explained more about the cards she had another question. Lucy knew the answer to this one and raised her hand saying "Professor, some believe that the significator helps to direct the energies toward the reading's goal by signifying the purpose of the reading. The significator card simply represents the seeker, or his situation." She said and out her hand down waiting for what professor had to say. Quote: Originally Posted by Canoir Greengrass Freya took out her notes and copying down what Professor Bishop wrote on the board. The Significator? She raised her hand before saying "The Significator card is a card that is drawn to represent the querent or the person we are reading for in the tarot reading like what you are and what is important for you to know about yourself right now." Quote: Originally Posted by Ashy Malfoy "Professor..." Tyrone began wearily "Wouldn't it be something like the representastion of the person wanting to find their future? I've heard that the old ways allowed the card to be chosen before the shuffle. Right?" He was unsure. None of his books had said much about the significance of the positioning of the cards. Well, not from the books he had gotten. It seemed Renée was getting many different variations on the answer she was looking for, but at least the students seemed to be getting the basic idea down. "Yes, Miss Hollingberry, the significator can represent an idea of the present, what is being looked for," she replied, before glancing at Evelyn. "And it could very easily be considered the prologue to the story. But it could also be explained as the entire story.In fact, as so many of you have said," in one way or another, " the significator represents the person asking the question. It could also represent the question itself, although several of the other cards address that as well, in the Celtic cross spread at least. And I'm specifying that it represents the one asking the question, because in many cases when you are doing a reading, you might be doing it for someone other than yourself. And in that case, the significator, when used, would represent the person you're helping," she continued, before glancing at the few who had addressed how the significator was chosen. That was another story altogether, really, but she ran her fingers along the deck she'd placed on her desk again before addressing the class again. "Significators can be chosen in a few ways. You could simply choose a card you feel represents yourself, given its meanings and such, which commonly involves the Magician or High Priestess, or any of the court cards. You could let the deck choose, by shuffling and seeing what card ends up on the top of the deck. That often gives more insight as to what question is being asked. Or, in the case of doing a reading for someone else, you could let them go through the cards and pick one, which can also elaborate on the other cards representing personal ideas of self. Of course, none of these are relevant, exactly, if you're doing a reading and choose not to use a significator, but it's always interesting to find out." She smiled. In a way, that was what Treyen had been attempting, in his own angry way, to do to herself. It was just too bad that wasn't how it worked. But then she looked out at the class again with a grin. "How many of you think you would be able to do a reading now? Of course, given a way to interpret the cards you end up with." She wasn't about to expect them all to go in blindly, or even do perfect readings the first time around. But she imagined they could have some fun with it. "There should be enough sets of cards on the shelves for everyone, although I'd recommend pairing up. That way you could maybe learn some things about your classmates," she added. Besides, while she could cast a duplicating charm on the cards to create more sets, that could lessen the inherent magic in the decks. "Feel free to use any spread you'd like, as well, although I'd recommend either the one we discussed in class, or a simple one like the three-card spread. And keep in mind, I'll still be here to answer questions, so don't be afraid." Although she was thinking about doing a reading of her own, still curious about those she knew were in the room without revealing themselves. The students came first. ooc: As explained, you guys feel free to RP doing readings for yourselves or for a partner. Use the link for card meanings, or your own if you'd rather. Obviously, decide what cards appear on your own (unless you literally have a deck in front of you, which would be kind of awesome but unexpected.) and have fun with this. I'll be around occasionally to check on things, answer questions when I can, and Professor Bishop is always technically there watching you. __________________ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ It's me, hi, I'm the problem, it's me, at tea time, everybody agrees ...It must be exhausting, always rooting for the anti-hero ♥ ♥ ♥ Last edited by SilverTiger; 01-15-2011 at 09:19 AM.