would Morsmordre be a dark spell since it makes the dark mark?

Nods, "The Unforgivables are those spells which are undoubly dark and cannot be argued about on their nature. But on the other hand, there are some dark spells that only become dark on the intention alone. A petrification charm, for example, which can be used for defensive purpose only can change its nature ot dark, almost fatal magic. That makes the nature of some spell so argued about. However, again, the Unforgivables cannot be argued about. Only spells which are and will always be dark."

Francis explains, "Typical Dark Magic spells are called Curses. There are offensive spells that shoot out of a wand like a gun; curse energy causes physical damage to things it hits besides the magical effect. Hexes and jinxes are lesser spells that adversely affect the target. As mentioned above, these spells are not necessarily Dark Magic. The intention of the caster is what actually makes the difference. Dark Magic is more than simply curses, however. Magic which involves tampering with the free will of another person or which kills another person would be considered Dark Magic indeed."

Amy raised her hand.
"There are also common hexes and jinxs, like Tarantallegra, the Bat-Bogey Hex, or Densaugeo, to name a few," Amy added.

Ron raised his eyebrow.

"About the whole intent thing, say St. Mungo's used the controler one to help a patient rehabilitate? I mean, that would be used for good... or pheraps crucio for shock therapy?"

A dark spell would be the Cruccio, Avda kedevra, imperio, knee-reversing hex, and entrail-Expelling curse

Noel writes that down, "I don't think Morsmordre can be classified as dark magic. It's just a mark no matter how scary it looks."

"That's really interesting I never thought about that," Noel remarks.

*looks at Noel and rolls eyes* "i dont think i asked u"

*gets back to copy some of the dark spells the students have said*

Francis then asks, "But if the spell is cast with the evil intent to scare everyone and control their reactions, such as submission and lack of courage, wouldn't it be considered Dark Magic? After all, dark magic centers around the intent, doesnt it?"

Noel feels kind of weird, "Just thinking outloud." she continues to take notes.

Mithos raises his hand " Professor any magic at all can be harmful if used the wrong way or for the wrong purposes, isn't that right? Obliviate for example and Locomotor Mortis and so on..."

"I think Crucio would give one heck of a bad shock therapy," Amy remarked, smirking. "Crucio's too deadly to be used for any sort of good, which is why it's classified as an Unforgiveable."

"Yeah I was thinking more down the road of physical harm. Don't get me wrong, I don't find Morsmordre to be a pleasant spell."

couldnt stunning be considered a dark spell if used in the wrong way? but truly that applies to most spells

Ron bobbed his head in agreement.

"That may be true... but there are different ranges of power ... and who knows, maybe the doctors insane aswell"

"Maybe they're called unforgiveable because they're like mortal sins. It's a catholic thing."

Francis looks at the Professor and asks, "Does the evil intent to harm and injure someone have to be always physical? Or can it emotional as well?". Thinking about it a bit more, she adds, "Since disabling someone emotionally and rationally, then the person would become more vulnerable to other sorts of attacks.. So, wouldnt that type of harm and injury be considered as well?"

Ron looked over at Noel.

"A Catholic thing huh? I don't think most people associate curses with religion."

"To add," Amy asked. "The same applies mentally, correct?"

Noel chuckles "I tend to associate everything with religion don't mind me. Just, once again thinking outloud. A mortal sin is something that no priest or prayer can forgive. Some wizards are catholic right?"

Francis turns around and quietly says with a smile, "I don't think a discussion about religion and wizardry is fit for a DADA class... Maybe you two can talk it out privately sometime later?"

ooc- Some teachers don't like to see side-conversations and make take points off. So, if you keep the questions relevant to the topic, I think they're ok. just a friendly warning

ooc: The professor is having issues loading SS at the moment so class will be suspended until she can have it up and running smoothly once more. Thank you for your patience.

"Those are good suggestions," Rae nodded and checked her notes. "I'll give 10 points to Gryffindor and Slytherin, fifteen to Ravenclaw, and 5 to Hufflepuff. Let me address you're questions and suggestions at this time. Noel is correct. While intent is crucial, there are many lesser hexes and jinxes that don't require the type of emotional commitment that curses do. Fan#1 also brought up a very valid point in suggesting that all spells can be used for bad, and I heard a few of you build on that idea. Even the most helpful or innocuous spells can be used for bad under the wrong circumstances. But that doesn't make them Dark necessarily. Last, Francis wondered if Dark spells negatively affected us in ways other than physical. A Dark spell can harm you in any way possible, just so long as it causes harm."



ooc: Sorry about that. I've been struggling to load SS and I thought I could handle it. Unfortunately, you all were moving much too fast for me, and thankfully Kris was around to shut things down. I'll get on tomorrow to open 'er back up again. Thanks for your patience, and those of you that didn't chat... you rock like whoa.

"Alright, so you're already familiar with several Dark spells. We'll review the most common defensive spells later, but for now... what are some common Dark creatures?"



ooc: This is the way I run things... the FIRST person to give an answer gets the points, so long as its correct. Everyone who repeats it is wasting my precious time making me read their pointless posts. I understand a repeat if you post at the same time. Next, give ONE answer at a time... give others a chance to play. Okay... go at it.