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Term 23: September - December 2009 Term Twenty-three: Mysterious Circumstances (Sept 2069 - June 2070)

 
 
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Old 11-17-2009, 04:19 AM
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And once again, you enter the dank, dark cave that is the Hogwarts potions classroom... but something has changed. Unlike the environment of the previous class, which was characterized by a clash of noxious odors, this time the classroom is filled with...

THE BEST. SMELLS. EVER.

Though the room is still cast in the typical gloom from the flickering candle wall sconces, unlike during the last class this time the air smells sweet, with notes of chocolate, vanilla, fresh coffee, light florals and fresh breezes, newly cut grass... A thousand lovely scents all harmoniously combining to create a symphony of sweet smells. Small flames are burning under a series of cauldrons simmering at the back of the room, and there are the typical rows of workstations with two stools at each station.

A thousand and three jars, canisters, and containers of potions ingredients line the shelves along the walls, gleaming dully in the low light. Each is labelled in the Professor's shaky old man's script, and at the back of the room are shelves groaning under the weight of huge potions encyclopedias and texts.

At the front of the classroom, a large charmed chalkboard stands. On it are written these simple instructions:

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POTIONS CLASS: LOVE POTIONS


Please be seated. The professor will be here momentarily. Be certain that you have all your potions equipment with you; failure to do so may cost your House points. If you are an older student who is familiar with Potions you may set up your workstation. I expect my younger students are now able to set up their workstations as well; if you need help, please ask an older student.

You may talk quietly amongst yourselves, but please keep the conversation to a reasonable level out of respect for your classmates. Thank you.

--Professor Kazimeriz
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The class began with a discussion on Love Potions- the theory behind them and their classification.

Then, the students discussed probable ingredients in love potions based on their knowledge of potion ingredients; this lead to the lab assignment, in which the students were to partner with a person of the opposite gender and brew a basic Class XX love potion.

The students received instruction on how to remove infused oils from their pre-treated lovage seeds, and were instructed to work in pairs to complete this task.

Next, the students were instructed to add a single drop of swan blood to the potion, bottled a draught, and sample each other's work. Ah... Love!

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"Sir," Ella raised her hand, then answered, "One fact is that it lasts about 24 hours, except it varies about on the attractiveness of the giver and the weight of the drinker." She liiked potions.
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Cela peeked at Copernicus and had been about to answer him when Kazimeriz stormed into the room and started the lesson.

She flicked through her textbook until she found something that hadn't yet been shared and she put her hand up.

"Professor, Laverne de Montmorency, who lived from 1823-1893, invented a whole bunch of love potions."

Why would anyone need to do that? Cela had noooo idea, it wasn't like she'd ever needed to use a love potion on a boy.
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Marilyn frowned. She chanced a look at Rafe and answered. "They make you unable to think about anything else when the person that gave them the potion is near. The person who gives them the love potion becomes all that the drinker thinks about...Aren't they suppose to be banned from Hogwarts?" She remembered reading in Hogwarts: A History how they use to be banned. She was unsure if that had changed.
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Chris raised his hand. He was actually very afraid of the power of love potions. "Professor if the brewer wants to make a person fall in love for them for a long time all they have to do is continue to give it to them. Like in the case with Lord Voldemort's mother. She continued to give Tom Riddle Sr. Love potion all the time until she thought he loved her back. But when you stop giving the person the potion, after the appropriate time they will lose all affections given by the potion and will return to normal." Chris ended it with a shiver.
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"For two points, please share one fact about love potions with the class." He waited for the students to respond, leaning against the lectern as though bored... But his eyes were sharp, watching the students like a hawk.
Reese raised her hand. "The effects of love potion will wear off by itself after a while," she answered. "It just depends on how strong the potion was before it was taken." She, of course, knew from experience.
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By the time LouAnn was able to come up with an answer, just about everyone in class had answered. The problem now was that the answer she'd come up with had just been shared by a classmate. She quickly of another, but then it, too, was shared by a different classmated. She frowned and sank down in her seat, her mind whirling with idea after idea. After thinking a little more, she raised her hand. "A side effect of love potion is that a person will remember being under its effect, and they'll be left highly embarrassed," she said.
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emily then looked at an older girl beside her, they said the exact same thing at almost the same time.
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Copernicus raised his hand. "Sir, the love potion is effective regardless of the presence of the brewer. It makes me wonder if it is a potion like polyjuice in that it requires a bit of someone during the brewing to focus the intent of the potion on a specific person."
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Chris raised his hand. He was actually very afraid of the power of love potions. "Professor if the brewer wants to make a person fall in love for them for a long time all they have to do is continue to give it to them. Like in the case with Lord Voldemort's mother. She continued to give Tom Riddle Sr. Love potion all the time until she thought he loved her back. But when you stop giving the person the potion, after the appropriate time they will lose all affections given by the potion and will return to normal." Chris ended it with a shiver.
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Reese raised her hand. "The effects of love potion will wear off by itself after a while," she answered. "It just depends on how strong the potion was before it was taken." She, of course, knew from experience.
"Well, that is true, but nevertheless it is always prudent to know how to brew a proper antidote to love potion, and to keep it on hand should you suspect that you may be a target for a witch or wizard's love potion." Kazimeriz said. "This is especially true during this time in your lives, when you may find that an impetuous witch or wizard may use unscrupulous methods to gain your affection. Youth and immaturity often lead to such tactics." He particularly eyed the wizards in the room as he said this; witches were statistically far more likely to resort to such a thing.

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Copernicus raised his hand. "Sir, the love potion is effective regardless of the presence of the brewer. It makes me wonder if it is a potion like polyjuice in that it requires a bit of someone during the brewing to focus the intent of the potion on a specific person."
"That is an interesting point, Mr. Kettleburn. In fact, there are three known classifications of love potions as outlined by the Most Extraordinary Society of Potioneers. Some love potions require the potion maker to include a bit of themselves in the brew so as to be the target of the consumer's affection. Still other very simple, rarely used love potions affect the consumer by making the first person the consumer sees the object of their affection... But by far the most common love potions merely require the consumer to receive the potion from the person whom they are meant to fall in love with... as you said, whether the brewer -- the intended object of affection -- is present at the time of consumption or not."

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LOVE POTIONS

  • Class X Love Potions:
    - By far the most common Love Potion, easy to obtain at any apothecary and even in novelty stores.
    - Easiest to brew; easiest to deliver with stealth.
    - Effect has short duration, mildest infatuating effect.
    - Rather ineffective, so therefore rarely used.
    - Harder to deliver successfully, as the administrator must be in direct sight-line of the consumer directly after consumption.
    - The consumer will feel strong infatuation or obsession toward the first person he or she sees post-consumption.
  • Class XX Love Potions:
    - Strong obsessive affect; moderate duration.
    - The Consumer must RECEIVE the potion directly from the administrator, whether in a spiked drink or disguised as another consumable.
    - May require an antidote to reverse the effects.
    - Not very difficult to brew, and commonly available at apothecaries.
  • Class XXX Love Potions:
    - Most powerful obsessive/infatuating effect.
    - May require a bit of the potioneer to be included in the brew (in some cases only). In other cases the consumer may receive the potion from the administrator directly or indirectly (hidden in food or drink).
    - Amortentia, the most powerful love potion, is a Class XXX Potion.
    - Often requires an antidote to reverse.
    - Effects have the longest duration of any Love Potion, but even these wear off in time.
    - May be banned from use in some settings, such as in academic institutions, due to their dangerous effects.
"The higher the classification level of the potion, the more dangerous it is. Though, having said that, please note that ALL love potions are the most dangerous potions that you will ever deal with, because love -- real or perceived -- is the strongest emotion a person can experience. Passion can move a wizard to great acts of courage or treachery; they are not anything to toy with idly, even Class X love potions."

"Two points to the house of all who ventured a guess, and an extra two for you, Mr. Kettleburn." Kazimeriz said, pleased. He valued participation, and especially open discussion.

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Miranda raised her hand. "Sir, they are evil." she said. Anyone who used them was a fool. Clearly Miranda didn't understand this thing about love, she was only 14.
Kazimeriz smirked. "Evil-- that is a strong adjective... That they are dangerous, there is no doubt -- some have historically even argued that they should be classified as one of the potions considered to be Dark. But is 'extremely dangerous' synonymous with evil? I am curious to know why you claim them to be evil, and if anyone in the class disagrees with Miss Belcanto, please share your opinion with the class." He looked around the room, curious as to his students' viewpoints on the subject.
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"Well, that is true, but nevertheless it is always prudent to know how to brew a proper antidote to love potion, and to keep it on hand should you suspect that you may be a target for a witch or wizard's love potion." Kazimeriz said. "This is especially true during this time in your lives, when you may find that an impetuous witch or wizard may use unscrupulous methods to gain your affection. Youth and immaturity often lead to such tactics." He particularly eyed the wizards in the room as he said this; witches were statistically far more likely to resort to such a thing.



"That is an interesting point, Mr. Kettleburn. In fact, there are three known classifications of love potions as outlined by the Most Extraordinary Society of Potioneers. Some love potions require the potion maker to include a bit of themselves in the brew so as to be the target of the consumer's affection. Still other very simple, rarely used love potions affect the consumer by making the first person the consumer sees the object of their affection... But by far the most common love potions merely require the consumer to receive the potion from the person whom they are meant to fall in love with... as you said, whether the brewer -- the intended object of affection -- is present at the time of consumption or not."

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"The higher the classification level of the potion, the more dangerous it is. Though, having said that, please note that ALL love potions are the most dangerous potions that you will ever deal with, because love -- real or perceived -- is the strongest emotion a person can experience. Passion can move a wizard to great acts of courage or treachery; they are not anything to toy with idly, even Class X love potions."

"Two points to the house of all who ventured a guess, and an extra two for you, Mr. Kettleburn." Kazimeriz said, pleased. He valued participation, and especially open discussion.



Kazimeriz smirked. "Evil-- that is a strong adjective... That they are dangerous, there is no doubt -- some have historically even argued that they should be classified as one of the potions considered to be Dark. But is 'extremely dangerous' synonymous with evil? I am curious to know why you claim them to be evil, and if anyone in the class disagrees with Miss Belcanto, please share your opinion with the class." He looked around the room, curious as to his students' viewpoints on the subject.
Mina glanced around to see if anyone else was going to voice their opinion before she raised her hand. "Are things that people consider Dark or dangerous necessary evil? Love potions in the wrong hand can be dangerous for sure, but that wouldn't make them evil. Would you consider an innocent school crush driven girl evil, because she used a love potion? Emotions can drive people to do odd things and obsession isn't any different." She was rambling now. "I'm not sure the potion itself is evil, but if implemented in an evil way, then yes it's evil. But wouldn't there have to be evil intent involved to make it evil?"

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Kazimeriz smirked. "Evil-- that is a strong adjective... That they are dangerous, there is no doubt -- some have historically even argued that they should be classified as one of the potions considered to be Dark. But is 'extremely dangerous' synonymous with evil? I am curious to know why you claim them to be evil, and if anyone in the class disagrees with Miss Belcanto, please share your opinion with the class." He looked around the room, curious as to his students' viewpoints on the subject.
Cela put her hand up.

"I don't think they are evil. Love potions could be a tool to do great evil though, at the very least a Love Potion is a method of manipulating someone and messing with their free will. I guess you could look at it like an unforgivable of the potions world in that way; you could easily drive someone to do something they don't want to do if they think they are doing it for love."
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Evelyn smiled at the word 'evil'. Love potions and 'evil' didn't really seem to sound right in the same sentence, and yet, they did. Definitely a strange topic. "I just like messing around with the stuff." she whispered quietly to Destiny. Some good good memories having to do with love potions and getting her tutor fired. Actually getting several tutors fired...Yup. Good times.
Destiny was daydreaming again. This was sooo not a good time to daydream either, with Kazi teaching and the fact that them Hufflepuffs might be planning something against them, but they seemed pretty quiet. No worries.
She was suddenly brought back to reality when Evelyn whispered. 'You messed with love potion before? You must tell me.' Probably not a good idea, buuut the class was about love potions, so it wouldn't be talking off-topic, right? Right.
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She was suddenly brought back to reality when Evelyn whispered. 'You messed with love potion before? You must tell me.' Probably not a good idea, buuut the class was about love potions, so it wouldn't be talking off-topic, right? Right.

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Kylie raised her hand, "Well.. Professor, I really wouldn't say that evil is quite right. Evil implies that something is profoundly immoral and malevolent. I mean, someone who is administering a love potion is certainly making a very risky move. A very dangerous, cruel move. As, in my opinion, to influence another being's emotions is a very...rude thing." She hesitated as she was, at first, going to say sadistic--but that wasn't entirely true. It was sadistic to a degree..., "But as rude as it may be, as utterly intrusive, its intent is hardly ever to accomplish true malice." Kylie fidgeted slightly, finishing her thoughts. She wasn't sure how much sense she'd made.. she only hoped that the Professor understood her intent.
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Fyo raised his hand. "I would say manipulative is more the word, sir," he said, a little thoughtfully. "There is black, there is white, and then there is grey, and I think Love Potions fall in that last category- the alterations they create in a person's emotions are not natural -" "Human-made," were they not? "- but I believe people who brew, or need, such potions are more... desperate than evil. On an average basis, their intent is not wickedness without a cause, but to acquire what they otherwise can not."

"Of course," and now he frowned slightly. "Love Potions can be used for ... sinister purposes, should some person wish so but, that said, pretty much everything can be misused - even medicines, even the food we need to live." The famous, poisoned apple was quite an example.

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[b]Kazimeriz smirked. "Evil-- that is a strong adjective... That they are dangerous, there is no doubt -- some have historically even argued that they should be classified as one of the potions considered to be Dark. But is 'extremely dangerous' synonymous with evil? I am curious to know why you claim them to be evil, and if anyone in the class disagrees with Miss Belcanto, please share your opinion with the class." He looked around the room, curious as to his students' viewpoints on the subject.
"I don't believe they are evil." Delana stated when it seemed to quiet down a bit..."Certainly they are dangerous, as mentioned, but evil? No, I don't think so. They way I see it, it's like lying to yourself... and people do that all the time. Also, using someone else to feel better about yourself is wrong, obviously, but not usually evil." She began to think about it... "Actually, I believe, in certain instances, they can even be used for good. . . Sometimes the good outweights the bad.... For everything there is two sides. Two arguments. Who's to say what's good and what's evil? I don't believe there is a definitive point where something goes from 'bad to 'evil'. Nobody has the same definition of what's evil and what's not. Honestly, No one is unbiased, we all have our opinions because of our situation and what we've been through. We can't ever really know what someone else lives with. I believe we should refrain from judgement until we know all of the answers."
Delana quit, if she didn't watch it, she'd be off on a long rant... and that was never good.
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"Very interesting points of view. As I have said, this has been the subject of much debate historically. The argument has been made by many that Love Potions should be classified as Dark Magic and made illegal because they cause a person to act without free will... Much like the Imperius curse, the victim's thoughts and actions are manipulated by another witch or wizard's will. While the administrator may feel that their intentions are 'good', often those consuming the potion would disagree wholeheartedly. For instance, I wonder how you each would feel about the nature of this potion if given a dose that caused you to abandon your little schoolyard crushes and instead fall madly in love with the giant squid?" Kazimeriz smirked wickedly, looking around the room as though perhaps he intended to afflict them all with just such a crush.

"We could get into quite a lengthy debate about manipulation of free will and whether that alone constitutes dark magic. I am, I confess, curious to hear what the coming generation thinks of such things, for your opinions will influence the future of wizarding law and society. However, in the interim we must not veer too far from the lesson plan. There are literally thousands of variations on love potions It was mentioned that love potions often include ashwinder eggs. Can anyone venture a guess as to what other ingredients might be in a basic love potion, given what we know of how they affect the consumer's mind and emotions?"

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[b]"We could get into quite a lengthy debate about manipulation of free will and whether that constitutes dark magic. I am, I confess, curious to hear what the coming generation thinks of such things, for your opinions will influence the future of wizarding law and society. However, in the interim we must not veer too far from the lesson plan. There are literally thousands of variations on love potions It was mentioned that love potions often include ashwinder eggs. Can anyone venture a guess as to what other ingredients might be in a basic love potion, given what we know of how they affect the consumer's mind and emotions?"

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Fyo raised his hand. "Fluxweed?" He more suggested than answered. "It is an agent of change, and I guess a Love Potion brings about a significant alteration in a person and who he or she is -- the way he or she feels towards a certain other."

"Or lovage," he went on. "It 'inflames' the brain, and produces recklessness - and I guess a certain amount of that is needed, in order to cause a person to fall so madly in love with another, that they forget to think of the folly or consequences of their actions." He was reminded of what he had read of Ronald Weasley's rather foolishly reckless potion-inspired "love" for Romilda Vane.

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Kazimeriz smirked. "Evil-- that is a strong adjective... That they are dangerous, there is no doubt -- some have historically even argued that they should be classified as one of the potions considered to be Dark. But is 'extremely dangerous' synonymous with evil? I am curious to know why you claim them to be evil, and if anyone in the class disagrees with Miss Belcanto, please share your opinion with the class." He looked around the room, curious as to his students' viewpoints on the subject.
Miranda was jotting down the things the other's had said in response to the question. Which was why she was a bit startled when Professor Kazimeriz wanted her to elaborate.
And he was smirking. Hmmm...

"Well, sir," she raised her hand, just in case, and took a deep breath. "I cannot understand why anyone would want to force a person to love them. It's just wrong. It would be as if you used the Imperious curse on that person and made them love you. Glancing at the first girl who spoke up, Miranda continued. "A silly girl's crush is just that, silly and stupid. Which is why the potion is extremely dangerous. But what do little kids know of that? Which is why it's evil, it shouldn't exist."Hmmm, who knew she had these feelings? Evil intent to make it evil...she had said.
"Obviously the little girl isn't drugging her crush with a Love Potion to make him happy...It's all just a very selfish act, to be honest."

And that Slytherin girl did make a point, which Miranda was not at all against.
"IF they find a way to remove the obsessiveness and instead used them to somehow make people happy, if they have a condition that makes them unhappy, then I say go for it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But I haven't seen anyone or read anywhere that they have been using a Love Potion for medication.

Also, before we know it, people will start to use Hate Potions, which is just as evil."


As for the new question... Once more, Miranda raised her hand.
"Sir, could parts of a Billywig be used? Since it's sting can cause giddiness and well, you are pretty out of it and happy with a Love Potion. To a point..." she mumbled. "Is it possible that the same ingredients to make an Elixir to Induce Euphoria is also used for a love potion? That is, if you do not include the Peppermint." Errr, right?
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