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Old 04-30-2009, 10:49 AM
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In a new interview with the Baltimore Sun, David Yates and Steve Kloves discuss writing and directing Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows.

David spoke about why he cast Jim Broadbent in the role of Slughorn;

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"I've worked with Jim before, and that's where you most see my British sensibility," says Yates. "Jim as an actor is a real touchstone of the British sensibility. He understands the people in the British middle-class, and their need for social advancement, and their need to be recognized that they have achieved social advancement. He's built a career on understanding those characteristics. He has great pathos but he's also very funny."
Yates and Kloves explained the reasons why the memories related to Tom Riddle, are cut down;

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Prince presented challenges because of "a series of memories that inform the past and the present." While Yates "enjoyed the flashbacks enormously as separate incidents, he didn't feel they were satisfying within the whole. In other words, they diluted the dramatic experience from his point of view and he felt we needed to concentrate exclusively on those memories that informed one particular thread of the story - the story I was, by and large, telling."

Yates says, "We often have conversations which go along the lines of 'Will the fans really like it if we lose that?' Some choices may be right for the framework of the film but will put the fans out." Yates wants "to make sure the fans are happy" and says he always lets pieces of the book go "regretfully," but his goal is to make "the best adaptation that will warrant spending two-and-a-half hours in the dark."
David then sums up the films he has directed, in terms of tone;

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"I'd wanted Order of the Phoenix to be an intense journey with a troubled young kid, more social-realist than the other films. But The Half-Blood Prince is more heightened, and if Deathly Hallows Part I is quite verite and goes back to that social-realist style, Part II should be epic and operatic."
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"He's always been the funny one, but he has so much more as an actor than that. In Prince, he has lovely stuff that's funny and true, but in Deathly Hallows, he must be defensive and haunted, and Rupert took to that like a duck to water. I'm always thankful that Jo Rowling gave us a world that allowed us to turn corners with the actors."
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"He's always been the funny one" - I dont agree with that.I like him but hes not funny at all.His acting skills are good but he cant use them properly.He should be more energic and assertive.Maybe in the HBP he will show us his real face.Im looking forward to that. I dont know whats worse: that rritating and always jealous Ron from the book or that narrow-minded and boring Ron from the movie...
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"He's always been the funny one" - I dont agree with that.I like him but hes not funny at all.His acting skills are good but he cant use them properly.He should be more energic and assertive.Maybe in the HBP he will show us his real face.Im looking forward to that. I dont know whats worse: that rritating and always jealous Ron from the book or that narrow-minded and boring Ron from the movie...
I don't understand how you think Ruper'ts acting is not good. He's a great actor if you've seen his other movie Driving Lessons. I think people don't take him seriously at all. He has talent and in my opinon, he's the best actor out of the trio. I loved him in SS - he felt more realistic than Dan or Emma, and he was only a kid!
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"He's always been the funny one" - I dont agree with that.I like him but hes not funny at all.His acting skills are good but he cant use them properly.He should be more energic and assertive.Maybe in the HBP he will show us his real face.Im looking forward to that. I dont know whats worse: that rritating and always jealous Ron from the book or that narrow-minded and boring Ron from the movie...
You clearly need to watch "Driving Lessons"....he is a very good actor. Funny? Well, that is subjective, but i believe he has a dry humour and SOME folks dont pick up on that.....Ron may be slightly irritating in the book at times, but he always always comes through....he is just an adolescent in the book, same as the other Hogwarts students, complete with mature and immature flashes of emotion and reaction.
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Love Rupert! He's amazing in Driving Lessons, and he has moments in every Potter film.
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Unfortunately, due to the writers, Ron is no longer a fully-fleshed character, he's a caricature. And I'm completely not buying the explanation as to cutting down Tom's memories. The Gaunt family is one of the most essential elements in the entire septology. "Will the fans really like it if we lose that?" Well, you apparently haven't been contacting the ones who really should count in that question, and they are THE FANS! I'm still at a loss as to how JK can sit back and watch her books being put into a food processor then spit back out into a garbled mess. Then again, she has her (our) money, maybe she doesn't really care anymore. Since POA was released, I haven't heard her say very much about any of the movies.
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hermione/ron lack the air time and they are now harry's sidekicks and not part of the trio.
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I don't understand how you think Ruper'ts acting is not good. He's a great actor if you've seen his other movie Driving Lessons. I think people don't take him seriously at all. He has talent and in my opinon, he's the best actor out of the trio. I loved him in SS - he felt more realistic than Dan or Emma, and he was only a kid!
I've seen Driving Lessons before.Im not retarted,realy...I like him in the SS,CoS and PoA to (indeed he was better than Dan and Emma...)but later in GoF and OotP he was almost invisible.He realy needs to improve his acting skills.I didnt wrote that "hes a very bad actor!" or something, I just think that he can act better.
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ladycplum beat me to it, but the fact that Ron doesn't come across as funny on screen can't be blamed on the actor. If he's hardly seen, it doesn't mean he needs to improve, it's because he's not given as much to do. The problem is 100% with the script. Kloves is, in my opinion, quite spectacuarly average in his abilities. I can't believe a franchise of such importance has been left in his hands. Indeed, why is Yates finishing this off, when Guillermo del Toro expressed an interest before the Hobbit? Why did Terry Gilliam not get a look in? Because Yates/Kloves are cheaper to hire and will accept studio interference.

I said in another thread that Harry's "But I am the chosen one", as done to death in the trailers, is typical of Kloves' painfully unamusing and immature idea of funny. We're not talking Groucho Marx here. Rupert is maybe the most natural, unmannered performer of the trio, but has been sabotaged from the start. First by being encouraged to mug like a fool (or Macaulay Culkin, thanks to Chris Columbus) in Chamber of Secrets when he was fine in Philosopher's Stone, to constantly having 90% of the lines that make him noble, loyal and instinctive taken away and given to Hermione, through to being shoved aside completely.

He's not the only one, Mrs Weasley, Hagrid and Ginny have also been fleeced in this way, but Hagrid's character is strong enough to miss a few lines and the others are firmly cameo performances. Ron has been the most wronged, yet has to stay far more centre stage with only the worst custard-pie level humour to fall back on. Riddikulus! Kloves says Hermione is his favourite character in the book, yet writes her totally differently. What he really likes is the idea of a fiesty teen girl, not the character we see in canon, so has changed her to fit. PoA onwards she became a super-plot device, and far less attractive, imo, than the deeper, more realistic book version.

Steve Kloves has to take a lot of the blame for any flaws in these films. I understand that more and more has to be dropped to fit the increasingly large books into one film. (If it has to be only one film) However intelligent re-writing is essential to tie up loose ends and make the resulting story make sense. He hasn't managed it since Chamber of Secrets which was a less sophisticated tale. In fairness he didn't write the script for Order which wasn't much better, but at least the characters there were a bit more on track. Sabotaging characters doesn't shorten a film it just panders to what Hollywood think 7 year olds can understand. Intelligent sub-plots that need concentration? Memories that help illustrate the nature of the main baddie? No can do. Lurve and romance and teen angst? Yes! Double it! They patronise children (and dismiss the more mature viewer) in a way JKR would never dream of doing.

Heyman? He was the one constant as the Directors changed. WB are in charge here, but he's apparently done nothing to try to control the script writer, constant changing appearance of the world or the strange acting choices.

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MissRabastan, you need to put everything you just wrote in a letter, and send it to WB, Kloves, Heyman, Rowling, Columbus, Cuaron, Yates, and everyone else. It won't do anything, but man, you are so 100% right on the nose with absolutely everything you've said.
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I've seen Driving Lessons before.Im not retarted,realy...I like him in the SS,CoS and PoA to (indeed he was better than Dan and Emma...)but later in GoF and OotP he was almost invisible.He realy needs to improve his acting skills.I didnt wrote that "hes a very bad actor!" or something, I just think that he can act better.
Can we not use words such as 'retarded'. It's offensive and rude. You can disagree with someone without using such language.

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He doesn't want the job anymore. His stance was that the films should wait until all the books had come out. But WB wanted to capitalise on the popularity of the series, when it was at its height. Which is understandable, I guess.
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Boy, I really love reading all of the comments from Stunning Delalia, Emma CD, ladycplum, patronus charm, hpnaiv, and especially Missrastaban. They are absolutely RIGHT ON! I believe that the producers, director, and screen writer missed out in HBP. They've cut it down so much that the "soul" of that book was lost. The Gaunt scene would have been fantastic. It really puts the Riddle background into focus. I agree that MissRastaban should print out her statement and send it to those people. Sometime, I think they just don't get it.

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Thanks, but there'd be no point in sending my opinions to WB and co. Sadly, I think they do get it, but just don't care, which in my opinion is worse and makes me mad! They'll make money anyway, without making great films, so that's what they do.

Also, I agree that Terry Gilliiam isn't interested now. Sorry, I should have made it more clear. JKR was keen for him to be considered at the beginning of the franchise, and he actually met up with WB. I didn't know he thought they should wait, but from his own interviews, he was interested. Sadly the meeting was, how shall I put it? Tetchy! He wasn't impressed at being passed over, and why, and now describes the film as a factory line. Churning out produce with no thought of quality. I know he can be tricky, and can't be trusted with a budget, but he would have been less workmanlike that Yates and Newell. The films would have been incredible to watch and he might have fought to protect the source material and characters more. JKR must know it as well, which is why she wanted him in the first place.
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if you had got Gilliam, would you have got Dan, Rupert and Emma?!
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Maybe. Terry was Jo's first choice.
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Oooh Ron will be haunted? Sounds amazing! I hope they decide to expand his character a little more than just comic relief...
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"He's always been the funny one" - I dont agree with that.I like him but hes not funny at all.His acting skills are good but he cant use them properly.He should be more energic and assertive.Maybe in the HBP he will show us his real face.Im looking forward to that. I dont know whats worse: that rritating and always jealous Ron from the book or that narrow-minded and boring Ron from the movie...
Honestly...Ron IS the funny one out of the trio. Even JK Rowling has said that Ron is used for comic relief alot in the books. It's just fact and anyone who denies that is blind. He has other traits, but that's one of his main ones. And I think Rupert protrays that PERFECTLY. He relieves the tension. He's the warmth and the glue that holds them together. Hermione is the brains behind the operation and Harry has the bravery and strength.
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I've loved everything both Yates and Kloves have done with the HP films. And I think I'll trust whatever choice they make with them, as long as it remains close with the books.
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Ya know I really do love yall's passion who are both the readers and movie watchers. I too am a HP reader but I guess for me I just really enjoy watching the chemistry between Ron and Hermione (Rupert and Emma are awesome together) and the wonderful friendship b/w Harry, Ron, and Hermione. As for Rupert being the funny one- well as Ron he is- he does an awesome and sweet job as Ron. I for one am very excited and looking forward to seeing how Ron will be in DH.
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ok, all the comments were interesting.... I love that we can all express our opinions, but my stance is as long as Jo is willing to let them make it and put her name with it, it can't be that bad!! I love the movies! and Rupert!

P.S. I know it could always be better and closer to canon, but I have no say in that, so I take what I can get!

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"He's always been the funny one" - I dont agree with that.I like him but hes not funny at all.His acting skills are good but he cant use them properly.He should be more energic and assertive.Maybe in the HBP he will show us his real face.Im looking forward to that. I dont know whats worse: that rritating and always jealous Ron from the book or that narrow-minded and boring Ron from the movie...
Well... I honestly don't know what you've been watching but i don't think it's the same as the rest of us. I won't bother saying anything else because everything i'd like so say has already been said.

I agree with MissRastaban. In my opinion she's right on with everything she's said.
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