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Old 09-26-2009, 07:58 PM   #77 (permalink)
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"Sir...I think the main point would be. "Brody paused for a minute, before speaking again. "That the force likely to cuase death or great bodily harmed can only be justified as self defense is it is to prevent death or great bodily harm." She paused again trying to think of what to say next.

"and I think this is a main point....because obviously the unlawful force needs to be justified."
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Tibi raised his hand.

"I think what the text is trying to say is that if you're using force to defend yourself, you should only use what is necessary and never more. More force than necessary is no longer defense."

Heh. Maybe puking on Willie Crocker's shoes WAS self-defense.
"Four points for Hufflepuff," Antonio declared. "That was exactly what I had in mind. Nice answer. And another two points to Ravenclaw for defining the answer even further. You are all doing very well so far.

Let's go back to the textbook for a minute. Here is a statement which was made regarding the difference between violence and force. I think this is rather important.

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The Random House Unabridged dictionary gives the following as definitions of violence:
Violence: 1) Swift and intense force: the violence of a storm.
2) Rough or injurious physical force, action, treatment: to die by violence.
3) An unjust or unwarranted exertion of force or power, as against rights, laws, etc.: To take over a government by violence.
4) A violent act or proceeding.
5) Rough or immoderate vehemence as of feeling or language: the violence of his hatred.
6) Injury, as in distortion of meaning or fact: to do violence to a translation.

If you're like most people, your 'working' definition of violence is number two. However, points four and five include a screaming temper tantrum or a raging argument as violence! And number is three is a can of worms. Because what one person thinks is just and warranted (usually the doer), someone else (usually the receiver) thinks it is can be miles apart. This is why we say a person's definition of violence can be subjective. This is especially true when we look at the definitions of force:
Force: 1) strength; energy; power; intensity: a personality of great force.
2) efficacious power; power to influence, affect or control: the force of
circumstances, a force for law and order.
3) Physical power or strength possessed by a living being: He used all his force in opening the window.
4) Strength or power exerted on an object; physical coercion, violence: to
use force to open the window; to use force on a person.
5) Law. Violence offered to persons or things, as in the use of force breaking into a house,
6) Persuasive power; power to convince: They felt the force of his
argument.
7) Mental or moral strength: The force of one’s mind, intellect or will
8) Might, as of ruler or realm; strength for war.

So basically force is deemed good or bad by how you use it. And commonly when when the use is deemed bad, then it is called 'violence.'
What do you all think about this? And based on this, what would you describe as the main difference between violence and force? Or is there a difference?"

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Sarah looked at the classroom and smiled. "If Y=X and X=Y, what is a Martial Art, is it something that has to do with Art as in Painting and if so is Martial got something to do with it." She was wondering about Martial Arts. "I know Marial married this person called Arts and so became Martial Arts.""
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Sarah looked around the room and sighed, "I hardly understand any of this." She was realy good at muggle studies but she didn't understand much about Martial Arts. "What was that." She looked at what the Professor was saying. "This book is weird, I don't understand anything from the book, it seems to be talking in a weird languege." she sighed. "The main pain there has got to be don't allow some people to write books." She laughed. "Oh you mean about the sentance, well I don't know what it says so I don't think I can comment on that."
"Problem, Ms. Winchester?", Antonio asked as he heard a disruption. It was Sarah Winchester, why was he not surprised? "Try and follow along and perhaps you might derive some sort of understanding from this."
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