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| astronomizzle ♧ gryffinDORK | & the rest is drag ♣ #badluckDerf SPOILER!!: Vivian! Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimothy ... Detention? For using the lint roller as a hair brush? Vivian blinked. That was all she did. She was really just curious about the entire thing. Was Professor Flamsteed in a sore mood today? Hmm... was he on his man!period on that time of the month?? Strange. She wondered if that was possible. She'd have to ask her mum about it. Healer stuff, obviously. Of course Mama Fairfield would know.
Vivian was just beaming and waving at her friend, Zorro, when a GNOME STARTED SINGING TO HER? But... Valentines was weeks ago! The Slytherin sat there and stared. That was literally all she could do, with her mouth wide open. But really, surprising. Also her very first Valentines though! Despite it being late, at least, it was the thought that counts! She was going to further open the package when... well, Flamsteed's man!period got the best of him. So no opening of anything until after class.
Anyway... moving on to the lesson. Falling stars? Well, she'd heard stories and Vivian still actually kept wishing upon them despite what she knew. But... well, she still wanted to know the astronomical view of the topic. The blonde raised her hand to share. "My... My mum told me that wishing on falling or shooting stars is pointless because she says they're dead." Dead, just like her dreams. BUT NO, MUST STAY POSITIVE JUST LIKE WHAT DAD SAID.
No further questions on lint rollers? Stellar. He really did not want to answer them anyway. There was a proper and respectful manner in which to use them. Something that a certain Slytherin prefect seemed to also not understand given how she used to roll up spiders in them.
Shudder.
"You're mother was likely referring to actual stars," the astronomer noted. Which was also a bit of a hint into the answer he was looking for. "But true nonetheless. From our point of view here on earth, it takes years for the light from the stars to reach us - varying depending on distance, of course - so what we see in the night sky is not the present but the past. And that star you are seeing may, in fact, already be gone. Even our Sun, the closest star to us, takes approximately 8.3 minutes to reach us." SPOILER!!: Echo! Quote:
Originally Posted by Grrr..Meow Ohhhh, stars. they were so pretty but Professor Flamsteed did have a point. Raising her hand she said "Professor, its pointless to wish on them.... your to late... we are so far away from the stars that by the time we "see" them they have already passed on" that was a nicer way of putting it.
It was always nice to see them shoot by the dark nights sky.
Which was what Miss Duchannes was alluding to.
"Indeed a possibility. IF we were discussing actual stars."
Ahem ahem....AHEM! SPOILER!!: Azura! Quote:
Originally Posted by FwooperOnYourLeft Azura looked up at Professor Flamsteed as he spoke and asked them a question, she heard the other students answers and she didn't want to repeat them, besides, she has another answer of her own.
She raised her hand and spoke "Well, some of them might not be stars at all. Some of them might be meteors or things like that. There's no point in wishing on a falling space rock. " She said with a soft smile.
"None, actually," he grinned, tapping his nose with his index finger before moving on to the next raised hand. SPOILER!!: Tenacius! Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelsheen Why is it illogical to wish upon shooting stars?
Oh oh oh he knew the answer to this one! He raised his hand waving excitedly until the Professor called him "Because Jiminy says to wish upon a STAR, not a shooting star." Oh yeah he so knows this so well he can recite it even "And we know what happens when we don’t listen to what the cricket tells yah-- you get turned into a donkey!!" oh yeah, he definitely doesn’t want to get turned into one and be called an......
...........Gryffindor say what now?
"Jiminy?"
..........oh, wait a moment. The astronomer followed. It just took him a moment to get there. Although not familiar with the muggle film as much as he was the book.
"Never mind, Mr. Salander. I follow your train of thought."
But that was all he would say on the matter. SPOILER!!: Hattie! Quote:
Originally Posted by RachieRu Was that meant to be a Disney reference? Because Hattie loved Disney. And now she was a little distracted, singing that wish upon a star song in her head. Oh. Wait yeah. That guy had a point. When you wish upon a star. Not upon a shooting star. So actually. That made a lot of sense. But she figured that the Professor wasn't really on about Disney. So she needed a better answer. Or an answer in the first place, because her current train of thought had stemmed from that other guy.
"Well... the stars are really far away when we see them. So like we are wishing on something that has already happened. The star shooting happened ages ago, but we are only just seeing it now" So really the moment to wish had passed. That made sense right? She thought it did. so it was okay for her.
"IF shooting stars were indeed actual stars," he winked.
See? So many had fallen for the romanticized language of the cosmos. ALAS! SPOILER!!: Jaemin! Quote:
Originally Posted by Ameh He wasn't quite sure why it was illogical to wish on them, but Jaemin sure knew a very specific thing about shooting stars. He'd asked his dad about them, why they were falling and stuff, one time a long time ago... and of course with their both being very science-minded, the answer had also been as such.
"They're not stars. They're just meteoroids getting burned up in the atmosphere before they can get down to the ground," he volunteered, hand in the air. "So you're not really wishing on a star, you're just wishing on a piece of space dust that got lit on fire."
Yup. He nodded, rather knowingly, glad to have something in the lesson to focus on so he wouldn't think of... other recent happenings.
A wide grin spread across the astronomer’s face. “Stellar, Mr. Song.”
And another buzz word of the day brought up. Two of the M’s were now out there in the open. SPOILER!!: Daxton! Quote:
Originally Posted by Felixir So far, nobody had mentioned or apparently noticed the lack of lint roller outside the room, which made Daxton wonder if perhaps everyone had the tendency to ignore it entirely. He was not irked that his crime had not been brought to light, however, because he still had the lint roller right inside his school bag. If he still felt the desire to provoke a reaction from Airey Flamsteed later in the lesson, it would likely take little more than to very openy retrieve and display it.
In any case, his attention was focused, albeit very briefly, on the ugly little gnomes that had taken it upon themselves to enter the classroom and start warbling and blowing harmonicas at other students. For a brief moment, Daxton's expression was one of distaste, and he drew his bare feet closer to his own chair under the desk, not exactly finding the idea of one touching him to be very appealing. Then again, if one got too close, he would have the perfect opportunity to give it a good kick. That idea did appeal to his violent nature, and it seemed as though Airey Flamsteed might have the same feelings about the gnomes, considering the way he instantly dismissed them in a none too gentle manner.
Soon, however, the focus was on the actual lesson. Shooting stars, wishing on them, and why they were illogical.
Well, that was easy, and not even worth being written in his notebook. Daxton had always been of the opinion that wishing was stupid, and a huge waste of time. Wishing for something did nothing to make it happen; that time would be better spent on trying to make the desired outcome happen. Events occurred through actions, and not willpower alone. If such an outcome was impossible, that made wishing for it - or even thinking about it - all the more illogical. Wishing for something was like having hope, which Daxton knew to be just as unwise. He had spent plenty of time wishing and hoping for things as a small child, and been let down often enough to know that it was all a complete waste of time. At least he had learned that lesson very early on.
As for the context of shooting stars... that was just as simple. It had nothing to do with the fact that shooting stars were not stars, as real stars could do nothing for wishes anyway. No astronomical event had any bearing on the success of wishes, hopes, or dreams, just as it had nothing to do with personality traits or compatibility. Ultimately, wishing on a shooting star was as illogical as the entire subject of Astrology.
All these thoughts remained unshared by Daxton, given that he was not one to make his opinions known very often. In this case, however, it seemed to him that the answer was obvious enough, and Airey Flamsteed was bound to know that Daxton understood that wishing on anything, let alone a shooting star, was absurd. Airey didn’t even need to take a glance at Mr. Prince’s paper as he passed - although he may have been disappointed to find that the young man had written nothing - and could already assume the Ravenclaw’s response. The Astronomy professor did not like assuming too much about his students, as the teenage species were unpredictable by definition, but he full felt that in this case...he was perfectly within his right to do so.
And he would have been right. 500 points to Airey Flamsteed. Quote:
Originally Posted by Saz Hale Abby raised her hand and said "Well sometimes wishing on shooting stars is pointless and some of them might not even be a proper star that can be wished on" Abby thought it would be best to add stuff that her fellow classmates hadnt said
“None are, in fact,” he noted, echoing his words from a bit earlier and giving his nose a tap. SPOILER!!: Janelle! Quote:
Originally Posted by Daydreamer11 Janelle was all set up with quill and parchment, ready for class to begin. And then the gnomes happened. Valentine's Day madness. Janelle didn't really mind the disruption, but apparently Professor Flamsteed did. She thought the bulging vein would make it's appearance at any moment......but it didn't. After the gnomes were banished and the professor got the ball rolling, she listened for the question that she knew would be coming. And then it did. So what was the answer? Janelle had to think about it for a minute.
Janelle raised her hand and took a shoot at answering the question. "It's naive to wish on a shooting star because doing so will not make your dreams come true. But just like the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny, it makes you feel good.....even if it's not real." As for illogical........well......."Anyway, shooting stars aren't stars at all. They're meteors, right?"
The first half of her answer was...not exactly what the man was looking for, but she continued on a bit more and that brought another grin to the professor’s face. “They are indeed,” he nodded, offering the Ravenclaw a quick wink. They would go over some terminology in just a moment. Once he had finished with all the raised hands. SPOILER!!: Niomi! Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixWizard Shooting stars? Niomi was told a lot about them when she was younger. As a little girl she was told to wish upon them so her wishes would be granted. "Well... shooting stars are known for people to wish on so they can get what they want. This usually never happens though. As a child we are told these tales, in hopes that just because we were told this, our dreams... or wishes will come true," Niomi said, after raising her hand. This is what she grew up knowing and learning. "Also, logically, shooting stars aren't actually stars," she added. Niomi knew lots about the sky above her, but she didn't want to go into too much detail about what everyone sees in the sky.
Oh. That struck a bit of a chord with the man. But he would not allow himself to go down that particular path in the middle of the classroom. Thoughts, consider yourself locked away.
“Thank you for that, Miss Kelly.” SPOILER!!: Dot! Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassirin Wishing on stars. It was a little like Divination... mostly bunk, but it made people feel things, hope for things, and strive for things. There really wasn't any harm, as long as it didn't make anyone complacent. The things you wish for won't come to you without some work.
"Wishes are just plans without the details figured out yet, sir, and there's no harm in them. It's just that wishing on space dust doesn't make them any more likely than wishing on a pretty rock or a lucky sickle. It's the work after that makes the wish come true."
“No harm indeed, Miss Wojack-Gusey.” Said mostly so the class did not think he was a heartless scientist or anything. Not entirely at least. He nodded her head, subconsciously, at her mention of work. Although not on topic with astronomy, the professor decided to cut the seventh year some slack and not bring attention to it.
Teenage girl glares were quite terrifying, you know? SPOILER!!: Esme! Quote:
Originally Posted by Squishy Wow, clearly Professor Flamsteed wasn't big on Valentines Day. Nothing wrong with that because Esme wasn't exactly in love with the holiday either. Maybe one day when she was in love, but... that hadn't happened yet. Obviously.
Were they going to talk about stars today? That didn't make sense since the sun was out but she was going to go along for the ride. She raised her hand. "Well, first of all it's supposed to be wishing on a star, not on a SHOOTING star. I've watched a lot of Disney, so I know." Yep, that was another awesome thing that she had been exposed to because of her parents. "And also, as has already been said they might be meteoroids. AND stars die and even if they LOOK bright still they could be dead for like a millon gazillion years but we wouldn't know it because they are so FAR AWAY." Oh, and another thing... "It's also pointless to put your hopes on a ball of gas. Better to actually... I don't know... try to achieve your dreams yourself." So much information.
Look at her talking about science like a pro!
“Actually, Miss Darcy, shooting star is still accurate,” he corrected. The Disney fellow was not law, after all. “Multiple cultures, both ancient and modern, have beliefs based on ‘shooting stars’. The Greeks, for example, held the belief that when curious gods would look down upon the earth the act turned them into a shooting star. Therefore, when one was spotted, it was considered the opportune time to have your wishes heard by the gods.”
Just as some additional food for thought.
But her explanation regarding actual starts DID receive two thumbs up. Yes. Stellar. SPOILER!!: Chloe! Quote:
Originally Posted by pundantic What kind of-
It was a man kind of question as he was a man and it was a question. Feminist!logic.
Chloe raised her hand lamely and said, "Because they're not even stars." Stars stayed stationary until they exploded. And then they just ceased to exist.
"True story," the Astronomy professor saluted the Ravenclaw. SPOILER!!: Fiyero! Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMadamMalfoy Fiyero jumped slightly when Professor Flamsteed ordered the gnomes out of the room. He thought it was an odd time to be giving out valentines... and he wasn't too keen on the holiday himself. It was too icky and girly with waaaay too much pink! Boy, Professor Flamsteed was having horrible luck with creatures crashing his class. First that ghost last term, and now these guys! Sitll, Fiyero was a little disappointed to see the gnomes go...
He snickered a little at the Disney references some of his classmates brought up as he tried to think of an answer to Flamsteed's star question, preferably one that hadn't already been said. He raised his hand. "Well, as some people have said, they're not really stars at all," he said. "They're just bits of dust and rock that get burned up in Earth's atmosphere." He hoped that wasn't a bad answer!
“Very good, Mr. Jones,” he nodded. “Although not all these bits of dust and rock will entirely burn up.”
As they all would find out soon first hand. SPOILER!!: Kitty! Quote:
Originally Posted by Goblinfrog Kitty suppressed a giggle when the gnomes came in. How cute! Taking out her camera, she snapped a few pictures of them before turning back to answer Professor Flamsteed's question. She raised her hand. "Once I wished upon a star many years ago, but it wasn't because I thought it would work. I was just doing it for fun. I think that's probably true for most people but I don't know."
And...he was not entirely sure how to respond to that. So...rather than say anything at all, the professor nodded his head and quickly moved on to the next raised hand.
[spoiler-Colt!] Quote:
Originally Posted by Expecto-Penguin Astronomy Lesson.
He wasn't so against this subject. This slytherin happened to enjoy learning about another atmosphere and see if there are living life forms on it. He was sitting in the back as usual and he heard Professor Flamsteed starting the lesson. He brought up an interesting question though. Why was it illogical to wish on a shooting star? He obviously knew the myth people who wish on a shooting star that their wishes come true. *snort* As if. "Well Professor shooting stars are technically meteors so you aren't really wishing on a star. It's kind of dumb because people wishes don't even come true. I mean seriously how can a star make wishes come true?" He never really made an attempt to do it. He never understood it either. [/spoiler]
Until recently Airey had been of the same pessimistic mind set, but recent events had given the man a slightly renewed belief in wishes. Not enough that he would go wishing on meteors or anything, however.
“Meteors, yes indeedy,” he grinned. SPOILER!!: Arielle! Quote:
Originally Posted by ginnilie Astronomy had always fascinated Arielle. Growing up she spent numerous nights looking at the stars from the airy field next to her home. She'd seen numerous shooting stars that always made her heart jump with their beauty. Because of her fascination, Arielle had done some research on the twinkling beauties. Raising her hand, she said "Well Professor, the stars happen to come up with their own stories, right? I don't know the technical term for it... But as others have said, a shooting star isn't really a star, it's a meteor. And even if a shooting star was actually a star, the stars have a mind of their own, don't they? So they would never grant a wish that contradicts their predictions."
She hated how timid she sounded. It showed in her answer that she wasn't confident with herself. Being a first year she felt inferior to the older kids in the room, and hated sounding stupid. But in her heart she knew if she was attentive in this class, going home to her grassy field this summer would be all the more spectacular.
“Come up with...their own stories? Are you thinking of constellations, Miss Criswell?” the Astronomy professor inquired further. He wasn’t entirely sure what to make of the ‘mind of their own’ comment. Burning balls of gas did not have the equipment to have minds, after all. SPOILER!!: Rula! Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysSnapesGirl "Because stars can't actually grant wishes?" Rula answered, raising her hand. "It's not like they have a wand or magic power to make something that you wish come true. But I doubt anyone actually believes that wishing on a star or shooting star will make something come true. It's kinda more...symbolic or something, I guess?" Not sure if that was the exact word she was looking for, but close enough.
She'd never wished on a star herself, of course, but she'd read about it in some stories, and she'd always thought it was a lovely idea, even if it wasn't practical or logical or whatever.
“Quite true, Miss Botros,” Airey chuckled. SPOILER!!: Penelope! Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin Shooting stars? Were they going to be talking about meteors? "Shooting stars are meteors, light from meteorites that have entered Earth's atmosphere. They don't grant wishes. There's no evidence to support wishing on shooting stars." Wishing on shooting stars was just as bunk as astrology. Penelope kept an open mind to the things that were taught in divination and found it fascinating, but there wasn't any scientific evidence to back it up. At least for this class, it could be assumed that astrology was bunk. Penelope picked up her quill and started to take notes on the discussion about shooting stars. Where was Flamsteed going with this?
"Thank you, Miss Wright," he nodded.
Giving the semi circle of desks another scan to ensure he had not missed anyone's hand, Airey took a small step away from his desk - and Pebbles - to continue with the brief lecture.
"Now, before I go on let me just make one thing clear," he began. "I am by no means discouraging any of you not to have dreams or wishes. The purpose of this is to simply point out the romanticized language involving the cosmos and its inaccurate label." Although he would still say wishing on a meteor was absurd, but 6-year-old Airey Leighton Flamsteed would protest otherwise. "As has been pointed out by several of you, the term 'shooting star' is the common name for the visible path of a small rocky or metallic body as it enters the atmosphere. Nothing in this equation is 'shooting' either, but rather falling." So really, the whole term was a bit of a bloody mess and incredibly inaccurate. "Now, there were a few terms thrown about in some answers," he paused to turn to the blackboard and write them up on the board. Quote: METEOROID -
METEOR -
METEORITE -
Comet -
Asteroid -
Star - "This will be a bit of review for some of you and definitions have already been alluded to with your answers," he acknowledged. "But would anyone like to take a stab at defining one of these terms?" OOC: thank you all so very much for your patience <3
Class will hopefully resume in approximately 24 hours from the time of this post.
Please limit your answer to speaking of just ONE of the above terms, please.
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